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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:52 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:05 am 
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A question before i start to download anything:
Coollector downloads and store in \\Coollector\Images\MoviesDpt\Items it's needed pictures; i can see them browsing through that directory and they are images xxxxxxx.jpg at size of 150x200 pixels. For movies that i own, these images are doubled with images xxxxxxx_b.jpg at size of 420x550pixels. If i download and replace small or big images, what i'll get?

And even more; even if i can see these small thumbnail images locally, coollector took to long to load and refresh them. Why? always will try to download these thumbnail images first? if i replace them with the "small" images, will load them faster?

these image packs are up-to-date packages? or only till 02.02.2013?


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:29 am 
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Nevergreen wrote:
For movies that i own, these images are doubled with images xxxxxxx_b.jpg at size of 420x550pixels.

The program downloads the big version of the image when you hover the mouse above the picture. What do you mean by "doubled". Normally, as soon as the big version is downloaded, the small version is deleted from your disk. Do you have both versions of the same image?


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If i download and replace small or big images, what i'll get?

You have the choice to download the set of small images or the set of big images. You choose the set of small images if you want to save disk space.


Nevergreen wrote:
even if i can see these small thumbnail images locally, coollector took to long to load and refresh them. Why?

Please explain exactly what problem you have. If you have a slow connection, it may happen that the images are slow to download. But once the images are on your disk, it should be very fast.


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these image packs are up-to-date packages? or only till 02.02.2013?

Those picture sets were created on 02.02.2013.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:51 am 
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For movies that i own, these images are doubled with images xxxxxxx_b.jpg at size of 420x550pixels.

The program downloads the big version of the image when you hover the mouse above the picture. What do you mean by "doubled". Normally, as soon as the big version is downloaded, the small version is deleted from your disk. Do you have both versions of the same image?

my folder contains both files xxxxxxx_b.jpg and xxxxxxx.jpg but those with _b are only for the movies that i own (as far i can saw them).

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Nevergreen wrote:
even if i can see these small thumbnail images locally, coollector took to long to load and refresh them. Why?

Please explain exactly what problem you have. If you have a slow connection, it may happen that the images are slow to download. But once the images are on your disk, it should be very fast.

if i browse through the image forder of coollector , there i can see on my HDD all these small images, all has around the size of 150x200 pixels and if i open coollector they suppose to load very fast because i already have them on my HDD, but NO. They load very slow even if is no hover on any of them. I can understand that hover any image needs to download the big image, but i can't see the small one either, need to wait for it just like as it is downloaded at every single access. My internet connection is very fast, that cannot be the problem.

i use the portable version; from HDD is a bit faster, from memory stick a bit slower, but both seems to "download" images every single accessing time and not using the local files. Maybe i'm wrong but that's my opinion; a local file should load much faster.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:12 am 
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Nevergreen wrote:
my folder contains both files xxxxxxx_b.jpg and xxxxxxx.jpg

Yes, but a movie with a big version of the image, does it still have the small version of the image?

For example, 1234567.jpg and 1234567_b.jpg at the same time.


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both seems to "download" images every single accessing time and not using the local files.

We'll have to test this. I'll first check on my own computer, and if everything's fine for me, I'll go back to you with a test program to check what's happening on your computer.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:31 am 
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(cool) Hector wrote:
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my folder contains both files xxxxxxx_b.jpg and xxxxxxx.jpg

Yes, but a movie with a big version of the image, does it still have the small version of the image?

For example, 1234567.jpg and 1234567_b.jpg at the same time.


yes, i have both images (from there my question), how otherwise i could mention both filename (numbers don't matter).


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:48 am 
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Nevergreen wrote:
yes, i have both images (from there my question)

Ok, it seems to confirm your problem of images being always downloaded from the internet. I'm building the test program.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:46 pm 
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Here is the test program:

http://www.coollector.com/Coollector_Test.exe

The title bar, instead of saying "Coollector Movie Database version 3.25.9", will display the number of movie posters that the program has downloaded from the internet.

On my computer, the number is zero when I start the program, and that number increases only if I move to some movies that I haven't already browsed in my previous sessions.

What result do you get on your computer?


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:30 pm 
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interesting; they say 0 for me too and if i start browsing, it downloads the small images in format s1234567 also if i hover on the movie cover, than downloading the big picture with b1234567, but my case was with 1234567_b type of images.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:06 pm 
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Nevergreen wrote:
interesting; they say 0 for me too and if i start browsing, it downloads the small images in format

When you'll start the program again, will it download again the pictures that were previously downloaded? Can you see the same picture downloaded again and again?


Nevergreen wrote:
s1234567 also if i hover on the movie cover, than downloading the big picture with b1234567, but my case was with 1234567_b type of images.

It's the same. It was easier for me to write it this way, but it's the same.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:44 pm 
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Nevergreen wrote:
yes, i have both images (from there my question)

Have you already downloaded a set of pictures? Because in that case it's possible that you end up with the small and the big image at the same time.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:05 pm 
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i didn't downloaded till now neither the small or the big pack of images.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
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Nevergreen wrote:
i didn't downloaded till now neither the small or the big pack of images.

Ok. We need to understand what's going wrong on your system.

The first thing we need to determine, is whether the files are always downloaded from the internet. Can you prove it or not with the test program?


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:11 am 
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i made a simple test and seems that everything working fine, but for some reason the program itself are a bit too slow fro me in refreshing/filling images.

what test i made? attached are 6 images in order i made them:
1). checked the images folder and there is my 2 images 0000300 and 0000300_b for movie The age of innocence
2). started the test program and can be clearly seen that no data downloaded.
3). manually deleted the 0000300_b file (and here is an INTERESTING fact, as i deleted the 0000300_b file, the file 0000300 disappeared too, I can't explain why, because no reason for such a behavior.
4) started the test program and browsed to the above mentioned movie, and the small cover are downloaded 0000300
5). hover upon the cover image and big image are downloaded too 0000300_b
6) checked again the image folder and there is only 1 file the big one 0000300_b as supposed to be.

in conclusion as i see it, i need to delete the images folder and let the program fill it again than everything will work as supposed.

mean time (as i write) i got another idea, to check a movie that i don't own.
1). on first image there is the first movie 0000100 that is not in my collection. (Alvarez Kelly) with a small image.
2). you can see that no data downloaded for small images
3) hovering will download the big image
4) you can see in total commander that the file is changed as it is normal, but bellow you can still see my other file 0004600 which remained doubled.

as conclusion i need to deleted my images and collect them all again correctly without doubling them.


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 Post subject: Re: Movie Images 02/02/2013
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:17 am 
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