Re: Incorrect title
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:35 pm
tt0093715 Cruel Tricks for Dear Friends [Penn & Teller's Cruel Tricks for Dear Friends] (1987)
tt0106656 Dancing Queen [Rik Mayall Presents Dancing Queen] (1993)
tt0137382 The Big One [Rik Mayall Presents The Big One] (1995)
"Rik Mayall Presents" the complete series is sold as a 2-dvd set by Amazon.com. It is represented as a series by several other sources (and posters), so likely justified to include IMDb's AKA within the individual one-hour show listings from IMDb.
Penn & Teller ARE their shows. Their names are always an integral part of their show titles - always on screen - and often accentuated. So, their names belong at very least in the form of IMDb's AKA, when IMDb has the primary title listing wrong.
Careless contributors to IMDb likely performed ill-timed screen grabs to obtain partial show titles. An example is the case in which we see "Penn & Teller's" printed across screen, then erased, then "Cruel Tricks for Dear Friends" written - all while P&T are on screen. Another example is the show which begins with framed viewer warning "Don't Try This at Home", followed 3 minutes 40 seconds in by the actual show title "Penn & Teller: Don't Try This at Home".
Following is how the show titles actually appear on-screen:
Penn & Teller Go Public
Penn & Teller <screen jump> Phobophilia: The Love of Fear
Penn & Teller Tell a Lie
Penn & Teller: Bullshit!
Penn & Teller Fool Us
Penn & Teller: Don't Try This at Home <@ start disclaimer/warning "Don't try this at home" but @ 0:03:40 actual title appears>
Penn & Teller: Off the Deep End
The Unpleasant World of Penn & Teller
Penn & Teller's <erase - rewrite w/continuous background> Cruel Tricks for Dear Friends
Penn & Teller's Invisible Thread
Penn & Teller's Magic and Mystery Tour
It's challenging to rely on a primary source (IMDb), when tasked with the goal of being more logical, organized, accurate and consistent than that source.
You mentioned "Late Show with David Letterman". This is a case in which the host/star IS the show to its audience. You are not "appending" the host's name, it is part of the published - legal - on-screen title of the program. On September 8, "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" will debut, replacing the retired David Letterman's show (which ended months ago). Similar examples include "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" (~30 years), "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" (~22 years), "The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien" and "The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon". David Letterman hosted "Late Night with David Letterman" for ~11 years on one network, then hosted "Late Show with David Letterman" for ~22 years on another network. It is common practice to reference any of these shows by citing only the last (or first) name of its host: Carson, Letterman, Leno, Fallon, Conan, etc.
tt0106656 Dancing Queen [Rik Mayall Presents Dancing Queen] (1993)
tt0137382 The Big One [Rik Mayall Presents The Big One] (1995)
"Rik Mayall Presents" the complete series is sold as a 2-dvd set by Amazon.com. It is represented as a series by several other sources (and posters), so likely justified to include IMDb's AKA within the individual one-hour show listings from IMDb.
Penn & Teller ARE their shows. Their names are always an integral part of their show titles - always on screen - and often accentuated. So, their names belong at very least in the form of IMDb's AKA, when IMDb has the primary title listing wrong.
Careless contributors to IMDb likely performed ill-timed screen grabs to obtain partial show titles. An example is the case in which we see "Penn & Teller's" printed across screen, then erased, then "Cruel Tricks for Dear Friends" written - all while P&T are on screen. Another example is the show which begins with framed viewer warning "Don't Try This at Home", followed 3 minutes 40 seconds in by the actual show title "Penn & Teller: Don't Try This at Home".
Following is how the show titles actually appear on-screen:
Penn & Teller Go Public
Penn & Teller <screen jump> Phobophilia: The Love of Fear
Penn & Teller Tell a Lie
Penn & Teller: Bullshit!
Penn & Teller Fool Us
Penn & Teller: Don't Try This at Home <@ start disclaimer/warning "Don't try this at home" but @ 0:03:40 actual title appears>
Penn & Teller: Off the Deep End
The Unpleasant World of Penn & Teller
Penn & Teller's <erase - rewrite w/continuous background> Cruel Tricks for Dear Friends
Penn & Teller's Invisible Thread
Penn & Teller's Magic and Mystery Tour
It's challenging to rely on a primary source (IMDb), when tasked with the goal of being more logical, organized, accurate and consistent than that source.
You mentioned "Late Show with David Letterman". This is a case in which the host/star IS the show to its audience. You are not "appending" the host's name, it is part of the published - legal - on-screen title of the program. On September 8, "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" will debut, replacing the retired David Letterman's show (which ended months ago). Similar examples include "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" (~30 years), "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" (~22 years), "The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien" and "The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon". David Letterman hosted "Late Night with David Letterman" for ~11 years on one network, then hosted "Late Show with David Letterman" for ~22 years on another network. It is common practice to reference any of these shows by citing only the last (or first) name of its host: Carson, Letterman, Leno, Fallon, Conan, etc.